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1Plato, de Leag. x. 899 8. And as for all the stars and the moon and the years and the months and all the seasons, can we hold any other opinion about them than this same one—that inasmuch as soul or souls appear to be the cause of all these things, and good souls the cause of every excellence, we are to call them gods, whether they order the whole heavens as living beings in bodies, or whether they accomplish this in some other form and manner? Is there any one who acknowledges this, and yet holds that all things are not full of gods ? Arist. Met. i. 3; 983 b 6. Most of the early students of philosophy thought that first principles in the form of matter, and only these, are the sources of all things ; for that of which all things consist, the antecedent from which they have sprung, and into which they are finally resolved (in so far as being underlies them and is changed with their changes), this they say is the element and first principle of things. 983b18. As to the quantity and form of this first principle, there is a difference of opinion; but Thales, the founder of this sort of philosophy, says that it is water (accordingly he declares that the earth rests on water) [getting the idea, I suppose, because he saw that the nourishment of all beings is moist, and that warmth itself is generated from moisture and persists in it (for that from which all things spring is the first principle of them) ; and getting the idea also from the fact that the germs | of all beings are of a moist nature, while water is the first principle of the nature of what is moist And there are some who think that the ancients, and they who lived long before the present generation, and the first students of the gods, had a similar idea in regard to nature; for in their poems Okeanos and Tethys were
2THALES 3 the parents of generation, and that by which the gods swore was water,—the poets themselves called it Styx ; for that which is most ancient is most highly esteemed, and that which is most highly esteemed is an object to swear by. Whether there is any such ancient and early Opinion concerning nature would be an obscure question; but Thales is said to have expressed this opinion in regard to the first cause. Arist. de Coelo Ἡ. 18; 294 a 28. Some say that the earth rests on water. We have ascertained that the oldest statement of this character is the one accredited to Thales the Milesian, to the effect that it rests on water, floating like a piece of wood or something else of that sort.! Arist. de Anima 1. 2; 405 a 19. And Thales, according to what is related of him, seems to have regarded the soul as something endowed_wi power of motion, if indeed he said that the loadstone has a soul hecause it moves iron. i.5; 411 a7. Some say that soul is diffused throughout the whole universe; and it may have been this which led Thales te think that all things are full of gods. Simpl. in Arist. de Anima 8 r 82, 16.2—Thales posits water as the element, but it is the element of bodies, and he thinks that the soul is not a body at all. 81, 21 p.—And in speaking thus of Thales he adds with a degree of reproach that he assigned 8, soul to the magnetic stone as the power which moves the iron, that he might prove soul to be a moving power in it; but he did not assert that this soul was water, although water had been designated as the element, since he said that water is the element of substances, but he supposed soul to be unsubstantial form. 20 r 78,22. For Thales, also, I suppose, thought all things to be full of gods, the gods being blended with them ; and this is strange.
31 Cf. Herm. J. G. P. 10 (Dox. 653). . 3 In references to Simpl. in Arist. de Anima and Physica, the first numbers give folio and line, the second, page (and line) in the edition published by the Berlin Academy. BY 4 THE FIRST PHILOSOPHERS OF GREECE (b) PassaGES RELATING To THALES IN THE DoxoGRaPHIstTs.
The source text as printed, transcribed diplomatically. Where the source language uses a non-Latin script that reaches us only through a Victorian romanisation, this layer is labelled transliteration, because that is what we hold.
1Plato, de Leag. x. 899 8. And as for all the stars and the moon and the years and the months and all the seasons, can we hold any other opinion about them than this same one—that inasmuch as soul or souls appear to be the cause of all these things, and good souls the cause of every excellence, we are to call them gods, whether they order the whole heavens as living beings in bodies, or whether they accomplish this in some other form and manner? Is there any one who acknowledges this, and yet holds that all things are not full of gods ? Arist. Met. i. 3; 983 b 6. Most of the early students of philosophy thought that first principles in the form of matter, and only these, are the sources of all things ; for that of which all things consist, the antecedent from which they have sprung, and into which they are finally resolved (in so far as being underlies them and is changed with their changes), this they say is the element and first principle of things. 983b18. As to the quantity and form of this first principle, there is a difference of opinion; but Thales, the founder of this sort of philosophy, says that it is water (accordingly he declares that the earth rests on water) [getting the idea, I suppose, because he saw that the nourishment of all beings is moist, and that warmth itself is generated from moisture and persists in it (for that from which all things spring is the first principle of them) ; and getting the idea also from the fact that the germs | of all beings are of a moist nature, while water is the first principle of the nature of what is moist And there are some who think that the ancients, and they who lived long before the present generation, and the first students of the gods, had a similar idea in regard to nature; for in their poems Okeanos and Tethys were
2THALES 3 the parents of generation, and that by which the gods swore was water,—the poets themselves called it Styx ; for that which is most ancient is most highly esteemed, and that which is most highly esteemed is an object to swear by. Whether there is any such ancient and early Opinion concerning nature would be an obscure question; but Thales is said to have expressed this opinion in regard to the first cause. Arist. de Coelo Ἡ. 18; 294 a 28. Some say that the earth rests on water. We have ascertained that the oldest statement of this character is the one accredited to Thales the Milesian, to the effect that it rests on water, floating like a piece of wood or something else of that sort.! Arist. de Anima 1. 2; 405 a 19. And Thales, according to what is related of him, seems to have regarded the soul as something endowed_wi power of motion, if indeed he said that the loadstone has a soul hecause it moves iron. i.5; 411 a7. Some say that soul is diffused throughout the whole universe; and it may have been this which led Thales te think that all things are full of gods. Simpl. in Arist. de Anima 8 r 82, 16.2—Thales posits water as the element, but it is the element of bodies, and he thinks that the soul is not a body at all. 81, 21 p.—And in speaking thus of Thales he adds with a degree of reproach that he assigned 8, soul to the magnetic stone as the power which moves the iron, that he might prove soul to be a moving power in it; but he did not assert that this soul was water, although water had been designated as the element, since he said that water is the element of substances, but he supposed soul to be unsubstantial form. 20 r 78,22. For Thales, also, I suppose, thought all things to be full of gods, the gods being blended with them ; and this is strange.
31 Cf. Herm. J. G. P. 10 (Dox. 653). . 3 In references to Simpl. in Arist. de Anima and Physica, the first numbers give folio and line, the second, page (and line) in the edition published by the Berlin Academy. BY 4 THE FIRST PHILOSOPHERS OF GREECE (b) PassaGES RELATING To THALES IN THE DoxoGRaPHIstTs.
The source text as printed, transcribed diplomatically. Where the source language uses a non-Latin script that reaches us only through a Victorian romanisation, this layer is labelled transliteration, because that is what we hold.
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